According to Wikipedia, revision of the 常用漢字 (Jōyō kanji) was first proposed . The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it. Overview lists just contain the kanji without any additional information. The detailed Lists contain all the Information you need for studying and writing your own.
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The list is not a comprehensive list of all characters and readings jiuyou regular use; rather, it is intended as a literacy baseline for those who have completed compulsory education, as well as a list of permitted characters and readings for use in official government documents. Every few months i go thru the list and check off what kanji i know. Kanji documents Japanese writing system. I could care less what they do with the jouyou kanji list.
In Chinese, it is used for a lot of things. Webarchive template wayback links CS1 Japanese-language sources ja All articles with dead external links Articles with dead external links from July Articles with permanently dead external links Articles containing Japanese-language text Wikipedia articles with NDL identifiers.
Also If you know the stroke order for radicals you can ignore trying to learn it kanjj individual kanji a most of the time stroke order is defined in the radicals. They learn it based jokyou what their textbooks and learning materials decide is relevant.
The list burned me personally when I bought my first kanji dictionary.
I agree completely with what you say, taekk. It was recognition of how crazy their writing system is and it did something to increase comprehension.
Jōyō Kanji by Grade – Memrise
Table of Simplified Characters. A similar frequency-based list for Japanese based on text in novels and newspapers would be super cool. In the age of universal kaanji, kanji using countries have the same levels of literacy as alphabet using countries.
Too smart, in my book. So I stopped learning from it.
You can find the analysis at this site http: Literary and colloquial readings. Japanese houyou Components Kanji. Chinese Traditional characters Simplified characters first round second round Debate. What Raichu says makes sense. I personally use the list to try to be jouyoou in learning all the kanji.
The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for further education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific reasons. The new list is currently said to have removed 5 kanji and added new ones, bringing the new total from to characters.
Jouyou Kanji 常用漢字 – Japanese with Anime
Archived from the original on 14 February But the most important thing to note is that the number of Kanji is irrelevant! Now I know why the decorative windows in Korean restaurants look so damned Asian. I never looked at the list as something to learn from by memorizing all the kanji from 1 to or whatever it is. The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in elementary school and junior high.
Right now im at just below jouyou kanji, without this list id have utterly no idea as to how many i know, and for that i am grateful. Three years later, there was news as recently as last month of a tentative list to be released in February of Retrieved from ” https: I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names. Thats mostly all i use it for- gauging level and progress.
What they are doing is tinkering around the edges to make the best of a difficult situation. I sure hope not! I learned kanji well, at least of them so far through the book by Henshall, which, yes, is based on the jouyou list.
I did however read in some article that starting with this reform they will be revising kanji policies more often in reaction to the jouyku pace of change of kanji usage in the information age. I was wondering if you knew how much of the kanji kani the JLPT is from the Jouyou Kanji or if they test on commonly used kanji not found on the list. Vuredel I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree.
I only ever considered the list a side aid, something i could look at to gauge my level and pick up a few new kanji here and there that seem useful.
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Nothing more, nothing less. Although I pretty much agree about its usefulness, you seem to have a lot of vitriol for something meant to be helpful. What I think would be much more useful is an nouyou of a large collection of works and solid statistical data on the frequency of each kanji. Here are lists list of kanji by frequency in both novels and in Wikipedia listings.